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There are a few businesses here in Yakima that are using these Motorola CLS1410's or the CLS 1110's (I haven't looked at someone's butt who is wearing one close enough to see what model it is) and Motorola's site lists them as transmitting on UHF (I figured so) and on 56-business specific frequencies. What are those Frequencies? American Eagle, Office Depot and Target are all not in the FCC database but are all using these radios. I'm trying to avoid sitting outside the business scanning the 461-470 band all day waiting for someone to talk just at the right time.

Another question I have, for a Motorola guy, is were the grey Motorola Spirits (MU) models, programable to any business frequency or did they come with their colored dot frequency already? The reason I ask, is a hardware store down the road from me uses the grey Spirits and now has some XTN's that they use with the Spirits. What's the possiblity of them using just a colored dot frequency instead of a business frequency that they pulled out of the air? Since they've had/been using the Spirits for a while, I'm thinking back when they got them it was most likely a colored dot frequency. What do you think?

Our new Costco Store is using a bunch of Vertex/Standard radio's and gettting their frequency is also next on my list to attain.

This would be much easier if all of their licenses' were in the FCC database...

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Joey, this may be what your looking for

http://www.freqofnature.com/mwiki/index ... requencies

Cameron
Yakima, WA

another tip is just look in the FCC DB for the name - commonly they will just register home office or 1-2 sites in a state but use the same radios for all of them. So searching 'Target' will get you the radio freq for lets say target in bellingham but the same radios are used in your location.

huge chains like that your likely to get solid data, for instance Target gets all the radios from corporate policy for D.Hudson Corp. So you might not find it in target but for D.H

same with old navy/A&F/Gap/ having parent companies.

another thing to do is just look at radios they use, a lot of people are cheap and use FRS

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BINGO! Thanks Cameron! Have you found any business frquencies for this area?

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I'm familiar with Target radio systemthe most as that's of the top accounts at the company I work for (RGIS if you care). Most of the Target stores ARE listed; if you know the store number (hint, look on your receipt) you can try searching for it in FCC ULS. Sometimes they are listed as TARGET 655 or T666 or #555.

Target uses DPL for all its radios; Generally each radio has 4 frequencies in:

Channel 1: Salesfloor
Channel 2: Backroom
Channel 3: Loss Prevention
Channel 4: Unknown/Admin use

You might see also for some reason that mixed around; the Target in Wilsonville, OR for example has Salesfloor on 3, Backroom on 4, Loss Prevention on 1. Also, not all salesfloor and backroom radios can switch to the Loss prevention channel (which is sometimes a riot to listen too; those LP guys look for every small little change)

Sears I know at the store in Redmond in that weird half-mall by Microsoft uses VHF with Icom Handhelds.

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The problem started with marketing dubbed "Business Band". There is no such thing as a Business Band.

As for the CLS radios, they do have a limited set of frequencies. They are front panel programmable, but you can only select from a certain number of frequencies. I thought about getting some once, but I bought a programming cable for some Maxons instead. If you look at the manual for either model, it lists the frequencies for near the back. At least I think Moneyrolla does that for free... you might have to pay for a service call to get that list. Kenwood has it clearly stated in the back, as well as a list of PL/DPL tones. From there it's a matter of copying/pasting into a bank.


Office Depot is licensed for 4 frequencies nationwide on the license WQFQ912. I picked up Auburn Office Depot on 467.9 with a DPL of 131.

Here's my notes on Target:



Each store is on it's own "plan." The PL is always the same. That info isn't production quality; it's a hodgepodge of 5+ different sources, but look in the "G" column for the groupings. If you pick up, for example, the announcements on A-1, then the other channels that they have will also be from group A, and never the other groups. I only confirmed the one channel a the Federal Way Target. The channel you hear the automated annoucements on is called "Main". There's also a "Backroom" channel, it's 2. There's also somewhat of a chitchat channel, it was either 3 or 4. Target's loss prevention department is called AP for Asset Protection. They have seperate channels that they use when the plainclothes guys are working. If they only have uni's working, then they stay on Main. All this info from a former Target Team Member that I worked with at Fred Meyer.

After I typed this KE7JFF just replied, and we're giving you a little bit different information about the channel plans. But he's right that most stores are in ULS under the store number (target.com also has the store numbers). Federal Way seems to be licensed under the national license; there are also statewide licenses, and some stores probably aren't licensed. VHF radios are mostly gone.

If you want to have lots of fun, record the annoucements and play them back at random. There's one message that's something to the extent of 'expectation not met' that plays if they don't hit a time goal; apparently management freaks out when they hear that.

Well find yourself a hot little thing wearing a radio, take a pic of her butt+radio and post it here.

We will be more than happy to assist in research from that point on.

And here I thought there was no more fun to be had hacking on radios, now that we can't go to 460.425 and run a name anymore :(

Consistent with the list above:
467.7500/D115 Issaquah (recent), Southcenter
467.5125/D115 Issaquah (older), Factoria
467.4875/D072 Issaquah, Factoria

Flash

I've noticed the channel plan seems to be different in the stores where they have the CLS AND the Radius radios. Dunno what Wilsonville's problem is though. I'll have to poke around more when we start up Target inventories in March again.

BTW, I never see how they "clear" customer service requests Is it a button on the radio itself or is it like Home Depot where they press a hidden button on the customer service call box?

Oh and one Target AP crew at a store down here in Portland uses FRS instead of their own system.

And you work(ed) at Fred Meyer? :)

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Yeah, it's a button on the customer call box.
Yeah, I used to work at Fred Meyer. 019 and 215--Auburn and Redondo (Pac Hwy in the Kent/Des Moines area). No radios to be found there, but there was a mysterious button on the phones at Auburn labeled "Radio Page"(never tried it, but it probably would've rang to a busy signal). They do have "yellow phones" which are just IP phones in the 900 MHz range.

You know, I've seen that button too and wondered. Next time as in inventory supervisor, I will find out EXACTLY what that does since for grocery I set up in the checkstands.

Yeah, those are the Ericcson TDMA phones; which are neat on their own.

BUT, the Hollywood District Fred Meyer (which is the flagship store and the most busiest store) and the Oregon City store (also pretty busy) down here actually use FRS for a bunch of things. The LP guys at the Hawthorne Fred Meyer (the store with the highest theft apparently) use some sort of radios; I can never see what kind though.

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Spectralinks.

They might be Radii. Redondo had some on loan from Portland (main office) during construction and the first week of opening. They used them for security and the employee parking shuttle. 469.5 (131.8) Simplex, KB91716. Now Redondo has 2-3 LP people instead of 12+, and they're back to phones. Parcels had some cheap UHF radios, but somebody broke the set a few months in, so I never got the freq. on those. Auburn used FRS.

Taco, I didn't realize my butt comment would be so popular. :bowrofl:

Failed Experiment also: Went to Target armed with my PRO-97 and told my other half to shop as long as she wanted because I actually for once didn't care how many clothes she looked at. Not a peep heard on any of the Target frequencies. I even spent time searching the ULS database for my store and found a couple of freq's licensed to the Yakima Store -- nothing outta them either. I think it's my :stupid: fault though -- I put my PRO-97 RX mode on CT, which is regular PL. I need to put the RX mode on DC since they're using DPL's, correct or would the scanner still it still pick them up?

Then we went to the other side of downtown and sat in my truck on one street corner and picked up Office Depot and Big R on the same frequency and Home Depot on another. Then to Costco and found out they're not using any PL's. Then I figured that she'd had enough so we came home. Before work tomarrow, I'd like to venture back down to get AE, Old Navy, and confirm tones on the others. I found also a Nationwide license for AE, same freq's as Office Depot.

I don't have much business stuff for Yakima so after this, I should be pretty well up to speed in that department.

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It was more Nick's response than anything :D

As long as it says Code Search, then it'll pick it up. But if they're using DCS and you're on CT search, it'll just say Code Search until the cows come home.
You should also try SignalStalker; that's how I picked them up the first time. It also helps if you wear a red T-Shirt and khaki pants and walk with your scanner in hand. Then, when you get asked the "Do you guys carry..." you simply respond "No, but WalMart does."

When you've got one of your handhelds programmed to transmit on those frequencies, THEN you're set.