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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:43 pm 
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Guys, I'm having trouble finding something. Can anyone recommend a product that will let multiple scanners feed into one antenna. I'd preferably like it to be full-time (i.e. no selector switch)... is this possible?

Some questions:

1. I take it a device like this would be receiving only or is transmitting possible?
2. Would I need any kind of pre-amp to boost the antenna signal before going into the switch?
3. Right now, I'm only talking concerned about VHF or higher (50mhz+)... but does this exist for HF as well(< 30mhz)?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:40 pm 
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you can just use a splitter, like a BNC distro block for full bandwidth. When your Rx you dont need to worry, if your going to Tx you would want a auto switch or a real switch having your Rx only equipment on the same switch as Tx might cause damage if the switch has no protection.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:52 pm 
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http://www.tti-plus.com/Cables-Connecto ... mClick=540

Top right. I use it all the time both in my car and at home. Male goes to the back of my mobile scanner, antenna to one of the females and a 3 foot male-male to the other female.
In the old days I did get some interaction between the two radios, but not with the newer scanners. I currently use a 780 and 396 together.
I don't know much about the inside of radios - OK nothing - so I'm sure someone that can measure whatever you 'inside radio' types measure and say 'no you loose 1/2 of your signal'.... Whatever, seems to work for me - DOES seem to effect 800 in a negative way.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:16 pm 
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The "Splitters" referred to above are a better way to go, as using a BNC "T" can alter the impedance in each receiver at the first stage.

Some scanners may be OK with this, but when I tried it with commercial radios programmed to scan (receive only) it made each radio quite deaf.

I have used the full bandwidth splitters you use for CATV, although I think those are set for 62-75 ohms (as opposed to 50 ohm for typical radio applications) Still, even being off impedance a bit, it worked better for me than a T.

I will have to try it with some newer scanners though, I haven't tried in a long time and it sounds like the newer scanners are more resilient.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:58 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:07 am 
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Theres no need to use an overpriced multicoupler for your application.

Run some good-quality RG-6 (i.e. CommScope or Belden) with decent fittings and a cable tv splitter. This will do the job. Now I know some people will scream bloody murder over 50-ohm vs. 75-ohm however the reality is that the difference in receive performance is negligible. Been there, done that, and actually measured it. As Nick said, it works better than a "T" fitting.

Two caveats; don't transmit through it and don't expect it to work very well at HF frequencies.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:33 am 
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I'm with Rich on this one. I use an 8 port TV cable splitter -- 5 to 1000 Mhz -- from Home depot -- $ 17.00. Works just fine -- in the Metro areas.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:57 am 
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How does F win over BNC?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:12 am 
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I bought cable with F connectors on one end and BNC on the other. Works great. If you live in the city -- it work just fine. If you live 50 to 75 miles away -- you might have some signal loss problems. It all depends on what your'e listening to.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:17 am 
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MTM wrote:
I'm with Rich on this one. I use an 8 port TV cable splitter -- 5 to 1000 Mhz -- from Home depot -- $ 17.00. Works just fine -- in the Metro areas.


Agreed... if you have 8 radios ! In best-case scenario, try not to use a splitter bigger than what you need....

2-way splitter = 3.5 db loss
4-way splitter = 8 db loss
8-way splitter = 11 db loss

Though in fairness a few dB of additional losses isn't the end of the world if you are listening to local repeaters or trunked systems.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:00 pm 
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50 % or more of the group -- most likely live in the Metro Seatle-Tacoma-Everett-Bremerton areas. Since 75% are listening to 800 Mhz trunked systems, there should be enough signal to over-come any losses. It will work for most.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:07 pm 
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Having a mismatch with impedance is not going to hurt the receiver so what ever works for you.

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