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Author:  motorola20 [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  UPDATE : ELF may have fled the area in a boat, witnesses say
http://heraldnet.com/article/20090909/N ... ed.by.boat

I think they are going to catch these fockers now!
Author:  icom1020 [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UPDATE : ELF may have fled the area in a boat, witnesses say
Boats as a getaway, fishermen as witnesses... makes for a good read.
Author:  Vizwar [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:19 pm ]
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the case, which may be considered an act of domestic terrorism. The FBI is leading the investigation.


That makes me very happy.
Author:  TechnoWeenie [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:16 pm ]
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Vizwar wrote:
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the case, which may be considered an act of domestic terrorism. The FBI is leading the investigation.


That makes me very happy.



It's a double edged sword...

'Terrorism' is being thrown around as a label WAY too often.... EVERYONE who doesn't agree with the status quo is a defacto terrorist...

Secondly, if it IS declared as terrorism, the insurance company won't payout, as terrorism/acts of war is on just about everyones exclusion list on their insurance policy since 9/11...

I wouldn't be surprised if the tower owners don't call for leniency/misdemeanor sentencing just so they can get their insurance payout.
Author:  KE7JFF [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:24 pm ]
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TechnoWeenie wrote:
Vizwar wrote:
Quote:
the case, which may be considered an act of domestic terrorism. The FBI is leading the investigation.


That makes me very happy.



It's a double edged sword...

'Terrorism' is being thrown around as a label WAY too often.... EVERYONE who doesn't agree with the status quo is a defacto terrorist...

Secondly, if it IS declared as terrorism, the insurance company won't payout, as terrorism/acts of war is on just about everyones exclusion list on their insurance policy since 9/11...

I wouldn't be surprised if the tower owners don't call for leniency/misdemeanor sentencing just so they can get their insurance payout.


Actually in the beefy insurance policies I have see for a few pretty important structures do have provisions for terrorism. Considering its a radio tower, I would assume this would be in place.
Author:  Atomic Taco [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UPDATE : ELF may have fled the area in a boat, witnesses say
Here's what I gather:

Neighbors: I don't like hearing the radio signal when I use my unshielded electronics.

ELF: EMR will screw you up if you're exposed to too much of it. Therefore, it's bad, and we will ignore facts and the opinions/interests of others because ours is too important.


I can understand the neighbor's complaints. 1210 AM, now KTBK, formerly KBSG, is close to where I grew up. Lots of interference on the POTS lines. It wasn't too bad listening to Elvis or the Hollies, but when they flipped to a Spanish channel, it got annoying to always hear that on the phone. So we got new phones and now hear nothing.
Author:  SpudGunMan [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:11 am ]
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(From U.S. Code Title 22, Ch.38, Para. 2656f(d)

(d) Definitions (2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;

The United States has defined terrorism under the Federal criminal code. 18 U.S.C. §2331[25] defines terrorism as:

…activities that involve violent… or life-threatening acts… that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State and… appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping…."
Author:  TechnoWeenie [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UPDATE : ELF may have fled the area in a boat, witnesses say
Double tap.
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