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 Post subject: Radios on Ebay
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:56 pm 
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I have been looking at 2m/70 cm mobile radios on ebay. There seem to be quite a few Yaesu radios where the sellers are in Hong Kong. I am curious as to whether anyone in the forum has purchased radios from Hong Kong or other SE Asia dealers. I guess my question, because of the pricing, is whether the radios are genuine (just like the ones sold in the U.S.) or if they are knock offs.

Any information would be appreciated,

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 Post subject: Re: Radios on Ebay
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:39 am 
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Gampawayne wrote:
I have been looking at 2m/70 cm mobile radios on ebay. There seem to be quite a few Yaesu radios where the sellers are in Hong Kong. I am curious as to whether anyone in the forum has purchased radios from Hong Kong or other SE Asia dealers. I guess my question, because of the pricing, is whether the radios are genuine (just like the ones sold in the U.S.) or if they are knock offs.

Any information would be appreciated,


I have purchased accessories (but NOT batteries) from Hong Kong. I will not buy radios from there.

Here is why:

Even IF the radio is authentic (not a counterfit) there are differences in radios manufactured for different countries / regions. I do know that Hong Kong sells actual counterfit products. ICOM V-8000 was copied about 5 years ago. They copied the radio, the box, the manual, eerything. They copied a prototype model, however, so there were a couple physical differences that could be used to identify.

Batteries are far worse. BP-210 handheld battery was copied, and a commercial radio shop had a fire associated with charging the counterfit battery in a factory charger. The temp sensing circuit used to control charge failed, and their shop burned as a result. Again, the copy was near perfect, but one tell-tale sign on the label helps to identify the copy, and if you crack the case open the cells are completely different.


Because of these reasons I figure accessories are relatively safe. Everything else I try to be pretty careful.

Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Radios on Ebay
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:12 am 
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Actually...I know someone who bought one the Yaesu radios you see from overseas on eBay and it was a legit radio.

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 Post subject: Re: Radios on Ebay
PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:33 pm 
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Im just waiting for an all band, all mode HF rig for under $300.00 to hit the street. :mrgreen:

Honestly, I have been seeing some good stuff in the handhelds from a couple of friends...Almost want to buy one ~just because~..

Currently, I have my eye on the VHF BlackBox Radio. looks like an Alinco Knockoff of my 220 rig.

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 Post subject: Re: Radios on Ebay
PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:48 pm 
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Ken wrote:
Im just waiting for an all band, all mode HF rig for under $300.00 to hit the street. :mrgreen:

Honestly, I have been seeing some good stuff in the handhelds from a couple of friends...Almost want to buy one ~just because~..

Currently, I have my eye on the VHF BlackBox Radio. looks like an Alinco Knockoff of my 220 rig.

New or used?

I picked up a used (but VERY clean) IC-735 HF rig for my son. $320 shipped to my door. Picked up the tuner control module (not a tuner) and a nice desk mic for another $60 shipped.

All gear checked out on the mark.

As for new, at that price point I think it's a long shot.


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 Post subject: Re: Radios on Ebay
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:01 am 
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N7QOR wrote:
Gampawayne wrote:
I have been looking at 2m/70 cm mobile radios on ebay. There seem to be quite a few Yaesu radios where the sellers are in Hong Kong. I am curious as to whether anyone in the forum has purchased radios from Hong Kong or other SE Asia dealers. I guess my question, because of the pricing, is whether the radios are genuine (just like the ones sold in the U.S.) or if they are knock offs.

Any information would be appreciated,


I have purchased accessories (but NOT batteries) from Hong Kong. I will not buy radios from there.

Here is why:

Even IF the radio is authentic (not a counterfit) there are differences in radios manufactured for different countries / regions. I do know that Hong Kong sells actual counterfit products. ICOM V-8000 was copied about 5 years ago. They copied the radio, the box, the manual, eerything. They copied a prototype model, however, so there were a couple physical differences that could be used to identify.

Batteries are far worse. BP-210 handheld battery was copied, and a commercial radio shop had a fire associated with charging the counterfit battery in a factory charger. The temp sensing circuit used to control charge failed, and their shop burned as a result. Again, the copy was near perfect, but one tell-tale sign on the label helps to identify the copy, and if you crack the case open the cells are completely different.


Because of these reasons I figure accessories are relatively safe. Everything else I try to be pretty careful.

Good luck!

Another issue to consider is that not all Amateur Radio band plans are created equally. When you purchase a radio from another country you may find that radio transmit range may not be compliant with the US band plan.

You might also have an issue if you have send a radio in for a warranty repair and it could create a sticky situation with an authorized repair shop. They may not get paid by the Manufacturer for repairing an over seas version radio and will simply decline help you.


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 Post subject: Re: Radios on Ebay
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:53 am 
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This is off topic of the original post;
Why I don't modify ham radios:
Thieves.
If my radio gets stolen, I don't want them/he/she causing interference on a public safety/first responder commo system.

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 Post subject: Re: Radios on Ebay
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:47 pm 
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the Outlaw wrote:
This is off topic of the original post;
Why I don't modify ham radios:
Thieves.
If my radio gets stolen, I don't want them/he/she causing interference on a public safety/first responder commo system.


Why I don't modify ham radios:
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