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I used the 145x one time. I was told, over the air, that I could'nt use it. By some guy.

When I was working in Monroe, I remember 440 machines starting in Monroe, to Haystack, then to Sobrieski.
They worked quite well from the forest roads with a HT.

kc7bur wrote:

I used the 145x one time. I was told, over the air, that I could'nt use it. By some guy.

I was on my way home from work a week or so ago, and was scanning. The KC7SAR (Sobieski) popped . There were a couple of guy's that did nothing more than say testing, and checking for a signal report.... Some old guy came up, did not even ID, and started out chewing them.... He calmed down a bit, then told the guy that it was a SAR repeater, and not for general use.... Must suck to have such a dull life, that you pick on a couple old guys testing their radio's at 0100 in the morning. :?

I used to think this too, however I also like to consider some of these guys sleep next to their radio. They have built a system for the specific purpose of waking each other up to go do SAR work, and these are the real guys.

Personally, I want them (SAR guys) well rested when they need to wake their a$$es up to come find my lost & sorry a$$.

This time of year they expect traffic at 0100 to be something they need to pay attention to, not someone "testing" a radio. There are too many open repeaters around for that.

And yet how does a new HAM or someone new to the area know if it is a closed repeater, and being the first 2M pair after 145 ...

(Thus we witness the conundrum of the HAM, pondering the Chicken, and then the Egg, and then the Chicken, and then the Egg, and then the HAM, and then the Egg... Oh MY what a mess!!! Does it never end???)

Author:	Ken [ Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:34 pm ]
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OK... VX6R, and FT-8800R are here. Test in a couple weeks... NOW WHAT? Im in Sno Co. looking for 2M/70cm, and 220 traffic.

Author:	Brad [ Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:11 pm ]
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Well, how about this: 146.920 123.0 Mt. Pilchuck Repeater (Sno Co RACES affiliated) 146.780 103.5 Gunnysack Hill (North Lynnwood) 147.180 103.5 Downtown Everett (Sno Co HAMS Club) 145.190 127.3 Lyman Mtn., near Mt. Vernon 224.340 103.5 Fire Trail SERS Site (RACES Affiliated) 224.780 103.5 Lyman Mtn., Near Mt. Vernon 224.480 None Tiger Mtn, Issaquah 223.940 123.0 Haystack Mtn. (above Sultan) 444.300 103.5 Buck Mtn (4000ft, near Quillicene) 443.125 103.5 SERS Repeater - 228th & 4 Av. W. 443.125 123.0 SERS Repeater - Marysville 443.725 103.5 ESCA Repeater, SERS 220th Water Tower site 443.875 127.3 Haystack Mtn (Sultan) 441.950 103.5 Casino Rd. area near K-Mart 442.975 103.5 W7ERH Repeater, Clearview SERS Tower (RACES) There are a LOT more, especially around Seattle - but, these local ones will give you a good start. Brad/N7JGX Whidbey Island, WA

Author:	the Outlaw [ Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:14 am ]
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None. Ha Ha Ha

Author:	Ken [ Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:05 pm ]
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Outstanding!... Now to just get this VX6R figured out. Im looking out my window at Haystack Mt, and the King Lake tower right now. :P

Author:	the Outlaw [ Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:53 pm ]
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Hey, let me know if Haystack is up. There used to be a 440 machine above Skykomish, early 200x's. SR2 East from Sultan is lacking for repeaters. There was some kinda VHF link thing from Hatstack, I don't know if it is still up.

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Author:	Brad [ Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:44 pm ]
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443.875 127.3 Haystack Mtn (Sultan) is up - I just ID'd on it. The Sky Valley ARC http://www.w7sky.org has a couple of repeaters - 444.125 (103.5), and 53.350 (100). I believe they are on the Sultan water tower site north of town - so, kind of limited to the valley for coverage. I seem to remember there was a UHF repeater on Stevens Pass, overlooking the ski areas. Don't remember the frequency. And, there's always the old 145.110 King County SAR repeater on Sobieski. I think it still has a 123.0 tone (as opposed to the other KCSAR repeater on Rattlesnake near N. Bend with 103.5). They are out there.... Brad/N7JGX Whidbey Island, WA

Author:	the Outlaw [ Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:50 am ]
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I used the 145x one time. I was told, over the air, that I could'nt use it. By some guy. When I was working in Monroe, I remember 440 machines starting in Monroe, to Haystack, then to Sobrieski. They worked quite well from the forest roads with a HT.

Author:	chpalmer [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:45 pm ]
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147.20 Simulcast Multicasts on 443.400 :D

Author:	Ken [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:25 pm ]
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kc7bur wrote: I used the 145x one time. I was told, over the air, that I could'nt use it. By some guy. I was on my way home from work a week or so ago, and was scanning. The KC7SAR (Sobieski) popped . There were a couple of guy's that did nothing more than say testing, and checking for a signal report.... Some old guy came up, did not even ID, and started out chewing them.... He calmed down a bit, then told the guy that it was a SAR repeater, and not for general use.... Must suck to have such a dull life, that you pick on a couple old guys testing their radio's at 0100 in the morning. :? Quote: When I was working in Monroe, I remember 440 machines starting in Monroe, to Haystack, then to Sobrieski. They worked quite well from the forest roads with a HT. I know that Haystack (W2ZT) 223.940 - Tone 123.0, is linked with 442.500 + Tone 123.0. I talk with a friend down in SEATAC on my VX6R on 220 to his UHF rig on that one every couple of weeks.

Author:	Jim [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:01 pm ]
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I believe the 145.190 repeater is still off the air due to weather damage on Lyman Hill. The K7PP repeater 147.200 is still also down at that location for the same reason. Very hard winter up there and lots of damage to tower and antennas.

Author:	N7QOR [ Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:28 am ]
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Ken wrote: kc7bur wrote: I used the 145x one time. I was told, over the air, that I could'nt use it. By some guy. I was on my way home from work a week or so ago, and was scanning. The KC7SAR (Sobieski) popped . There were a couple of guy's that did nothing more than say testing, and checking for a signal report.... Some old guy came up, did not even ID, and started out chewing them.... He calmed down a bit, then told the guy that it was a SAR repeater, and not for general use.... Must suck to have such a dull life, that you pick on a couple old guys testing their radio's at 0100 in the morning. :? I used to think this too, however I also like to consider some of these guys sleep next to their radio. They have built a system for the specific purpose of waking each other up to go do SAR work, and these are the real guys. Like it or not, the FCC tells us we get to operate "open" or "closed" repeaters. In fact, the "WTB enforcement files" (now that's a great name for a bad flick) have a fair amount of activity relating to "so and so told you to stay off their repeater, and you have not..." Personally, I want them (SAR guys) well rested when they need to wake their a$$es up to come find my lost & sorry a$$. This time of year they expect traffic at 0100 to be something they need to pay attention to, not someone "testing" a radio. There are too many open repeaters around for that. And yet how does a new HAM or someone new to the area know if it is a closed repeater, and being the first 2M pair after 145 ... (Thus we witness the conundrum of the HAM, pondering the Chicken, and then the Egg, and then the Chicken, and then the Egg, and then the HAM, and then the Egg... Oh MY what a mess!!! Does it never end???)

Author:	Vizwar [ Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:05 am ]
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They have pagers to wake them up, it's not their radio's job. That said... I'm in the middle on this. I believe that a HAM repeater should be open to all HAMs except of course during a SAR mission. On the other hand... I have personally been thankfull that there was someone listening at 0100 when I was on my knees asking for help in the woods and I know that if general chatter were to always be on the 511 repeater those guys would stop listening. I've been chewed out too by a random person on that system. A much more diplomatic approach would go far in helping others understand that they want 511 to be a SAR mission channel as well as an emergency call channel between missions.

Author:	chpalmer [ Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:10 pm ]
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When a repeater is coordinated, it is asked whether it is an open repeater or a closed repeater. The .11 was coordinated as an open repeater and has always been open as long as Ive known. Probably some new guys involved with the group that feel they need to police things. All that was ever asked was that the repeater be clear for SAR traffic while an incident was going on. That said, it was never a rag-chew repeater, but one for a quick change of information...

Author:	Ken [ Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:15 pm ]
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N7QOR wrote: I used to think this too, however I also like to consider some of these guys sleep next to their radio. They have built a system for the specific purpose of waking each other up to go do SAR work, and these are the real guys. No argument from me, I did SAR for 10 years, I also know of the type that "live" for that pager... The majority of those guys scare me. :mrgreen: Quote: Personally, I want them (SAR guys) well rested when they need to wake their a$$es up to come find my lost & sorry a$$. Listening to a radio all night, when you can just turn your pager on seems like a much better idea to me... Quote: This time of year they expect traffic at 0100 to be something they need to pay attention to, not someone "testing" a radio. There are too many open repeaters around for that. Dont get me wrong, I dont mind the use of AR one bit for SAR, but there are better systems for it already avail. I do not see KCSAR abusing anything, and Like I already said, I like it, but It is, what it is... If they are that worried about it... And It seems most are not.. They need to close the repeater. Im glad they do not.. I hunt out in areas that I can hit Sobieski if I need to, and I like to know that If I can hit it, there may just be some grump listening to save my bacon also. ( But I would have to be 2 breaths away from death before I called SAR in for myself) :mrgreen: Quote: And yet how does a new HAM or someone new to the area know if it is a closed repeater, and being the first 2M pair after 145 ... I dont really think it is a "Closed" repeater... Just not a "rag chew" repeater. Quote: (Thus we witness the conundrum of the HAM, pondering the Chicken, and then the Egg, and then the Chicken, and then the Egg, and then the HAM, and then the Egg... Oh MY what a mess!!! Does it never end???) It never ends, and it provides something for us to talk about. :wink:

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Author:	N7QOR [ Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Got my new toys, what are some good repeaters to listen to?
This is what I mean when I ask, "how is a HAM to know"? Like it or not, the FCC says that those HAMs (and clubs) who build repeaters and operate them get to choose who they will allow on their system(s), as well as how and for what purposes repeater(s) will be used. In reading the enforcement letters that go out to the bozos who don't get this, the FCC seems to be consistent in framing the fact that the HAM was told not to use the repeater (citing date and other info) and then stating that the HAM used the repeater again on a date/time after being told not to, regardless of which box was checked when the repeater coordination papers were originally filed or last updated. I too have noticed that the .11 guys list their repeater as "open" in coordination papers, yet their practice is "closed", at least it sure feels as such everytime I hear about it. This is why I have never used it. It's theirs and there are many other open systems around, though maybe not exactly where theirs is. Yet I have the benefit of having been licensed locally and active enough (barely) to pick up on this over time. So how does a new HAM, or one who is new to the area, know what is right, if the listings available show open, yet the practice is closed? Personally I am an open repeater type of HAM. The first HAMs I got to know on the air are some of the most gracious folks you will ever meet, and they spent huge personal bank and much personal time to build systems for all HAMs to use. So my personal opinion mirrors many of the comments seen here. Remember though that the expense and effort required to build and maintain repeaters is huge. I figure if the folks who spent that money and effort don't want me or you on their repeater, I will not be there. The issue of "how nice" they tell us to get off their system is another matter. Ideally we would welcome new HAMs to our ranks in a more pleasant manner. First impressions, etc... I don't let a grumpy HAM get me down. :D Please don't view a slight towards the owners and users of this system. I don't know any of them personally, but my exposure has left me with the impression the KCSAR guys are serious about their stuff, and also pretty good at what they do. Some may comment "too serious", but if they are good, who am I to judge? 73, Nick N7QOR (And in the continuing the saga of the HAM, pondering the Chicken, and then the Egg, and then the Chicken, and then the Egg, and then the HAM, and then the Egg... We find an omelette, a HAM and cheese OMELETTE. Wait, where did this cheese come from???) Breakfast anyone? join FWARC for HAMs and Eggs breakfast once a month. See http://www.fwarc.org (A shameless plug ... purely shameless.....)