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 Post subject: AOR and ROR?
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:49 am 
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What do these fire department codes mean? I can't quite come up with a sensible translation.

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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:59 am 
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how where they being used?


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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:03 am 
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ROR can mean Release Of Responsibility. That's when the patient tells the responders that they're off the hook.


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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:02 am 
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for EMS in Pierce County look here:
http://www.piercecountywa.org/pc/abtus/ourorg/dem/ems/pubs.htm

more specificallly Release of Responsibility (ROR) look here:
http://www.piercecountywa.org/xml/abtus/ourorg/dem/ems/currentprotocols.pdf
page (5) or Page 10 of 111.

As for AOR, it's a blank, could it be "AMA" Against Medical Advise? if so look at the same page just a little lower.

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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:25 am 
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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
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Available on Radio? As in "Dispatch, Engine 72 will be out at the Fred Meyer, 1100 North Meridian, AOR"

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AOR also means that a cross manned unit such as Engine 73 has just cleared a call and is in service, status Available On Radio. Then as they pull into the Station the Officer hits his AIQ button on his MDC which places E73 Available In Quarters so that M73 can now be Dispatched.

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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:47 am 
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Thank you so much for that information, now it makes sense.

I suspected AOR had something to do with availability in the context it was used, but "in service" means the same thing doesn't it? Or does it?

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Ah, in NorCom it's just "local area" or "in quarters"


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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:04 am 
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With SNOPAC the Officer places the Unit in Service and the Dispatcher will place the Unit "Available On Radio" This is a CAD Command. Remember with the use of MDC's in the Apparatus the Officer can do the work of the Dispatcher by placing his own unit En Route, On Scene, Transporting to Hospital, Arrival at Hospital, Available on Radio, Available in Quarters, and Out Training. This is why you wont sometimes here Units on the Radio, because they used their MDC.

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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
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My experience as an ancient former dispatcher in a valley far, far away is:

AOR is Available On Radio- one of two things we are still on scene but available for calls or we are out of the station and on the air but not enrout to call.

ROR Returning on Radio- Headed for the station but indirectly. Essentially. we are going shopping; dropping by the hospital/medics quarters for a backboard or check out the new nurse/medic, Starbucks, picking up beans for Chili etc.


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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
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This was a Pierce county incident and the report to the dispatcher was that the engine was ROR and AOR. Having heard the terms occasionally before separately, I was puzzled by the use of both together.

Thanks for the link to the protocols, very interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
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knitnweed wrote:
This was a Pierce county incident and the report to the dispatcher was that the engine was ROR and AOR. Having heard the terms occasionally before separately, I was puzzled by the use of both together.


Not to start the inevitable flame war, but keep in mind you were listening to firefighters. I've heard them make use of the radio in new and interesting ways:

-There was a call in Kent several years ago for a motorcyclist who had not quite negotiated a sharp curve and dropped his bike. Ladder 74 arrived and a breathless rookie FF told Valleycomm they were onscene and "doing triage on a single victim".

-An un-named FF, who sometimes lurks on here, once told his dispatcher their engine was "clear the trash fire at the Taco Bell, and will be AAT"....Available After Tacos.

-Another FF here in Pierce County related to me his story of arriving at a house fire call years ago to find the house fully engulfed. As I recall, the radio traffic was something like:

FF-Firecomm, Engine xxx onscene of the fire!
Firecomm-Engine xxx, do you need a second alarm?
FF-Uh, yeah, Firecomm...Um...It's a house, it's about 20 by...Um, it's fully on fire! But it's not a big house, and I think it's a wood frame....But it's on fire all over!

And I'll be the first to admit cops are just as bad...Ask the cop who provided a subject's name, noting the middle initial was "F, as in Philadelphia"...Or the one in the un-named local city who told his Valleycomm dispatcher a few weeks ago:

"In foot pursuit! A black male! Running! East on James near the Lincoln park and ride! Black male, one shoe and a white wifebeater! I have his shoe!"

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 Post subject: Re: AOR and ROR?
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It's a GREAT JOB ! Can you believe I make almost $ 100,000.00 a year and only work 2 days a week. And I at times sound funny on the Radio, IT IS CALLED STRESS!!!! I'm On on my 5 Day Break right now drinking coffee. Who would of thought someday I would have one of the best Firefighter work schedules in the United States.

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"Not to start the inevitable flame war"



This subject was just about what AOR mean on the Radio!

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FireDawg89 wrote:
This subject was just about what AOR mean on the Radio!


I know; I'm just filling my thread-drift quota.

FireDawg89 wrote:
It's a GREAT JOB ! Can you believe I make almost $ 100,000.00 a year and only work 2 days a week. And I at times sound funny on the Radio, IT IS CALLED STRESS!!!! I'm On on my 5 Day Break right now drinking coffee. Who would of thought someday I would have one of the best Firefighter work schedules in the United States.


Ever looked into OCONUS smoke eating? A school friend of mine is doing your job overseas right now, pulling down a little over $240k yearly. He's not on the 2/5 schedule, but 3 months on, one month off. The 3 on are 2 on/off, and the month off is airfare paid back to Seattle (or home of record). Room and board, benefits and all that are GTG.

And I know it is a great job!

Thread locked for inevitable mod-induced drift; FireDawg PM me if you want info on that contract.

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