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 Post subject: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:51 pm 
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I've yet to receive a single transmission on the LTR system. I must have programmed it wrong, I assume they talk at some point on the radio....

Any tips? I have it as type "LTR" with these system freqs, on auto-place:

851.337500
852.087500
854.162500
854.337500
858.212500
859.212500
859.212500
868.087500
868.112500
852.083750
853.058750
853.063750
854.038750
856.021250
860.021250
860.021250
866.003750
866.056250
867.006250
867.013750
868.013750
868.097500
868.098750


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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:53 pm 
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WSDOT is LTR-NET.
Will LTR scanners track LTR-NET?


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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:52 pm 
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WSDOT is Multinet-2. They use subaudible data similar to LTR. LTR scanners will not scan them in LTR mode. Best way is to scan all the channels in the site and use audio-based squelch if you have it.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:50 pm 
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psr500 and or pro 106 wont track this?

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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:19 pm 
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401402 wrote:
psr500 and or pro 106 wont track this?


Nothing but a WSDOT radio will.

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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:12 pm 
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The trick is to scan the home channels only, the ones that don't have the constant status carrier , much like you would if you were monitoring a trunk system conventionally by locking out the control channels. It's a pain but it's the only way so far. However the status channels with the carrier can also carry voice, so one may have to hit manual to listen to the other side of a conversation by going back to a status channel. In a given area there is usually only a few home channels and a status channel. Some of the regions have a VHF link patched mainly in the winter which affiliate parts of the districts to the 800 system.

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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:22 pm 
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ok, i added all these freqs as conventional freqs.... we'll see what comes out...


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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:37 pm 
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Funny that WSDOT has what seems to be a highly secure net while WSP broadcasts in the clear...not that I'm complaining :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:00 pm 
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charlie fox wrote:
Funny that WSDOT has what seems to be a highly secure net while WSP broadcasts in the clear...not that I'm complaining :lol:


Not really highly secure, just a weird system. AFAIK, no scanners will track it because there are so few Multinet LTR systems in the first place- not enough interest.

FYI:

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Emergency Management Radio Systems State Agency Emergency Net
(STAEN) - 800 MHz
The State Agency Emergency Net is a radio net employing an ultra high
frequency (UHF) 800 MHz repeater that has been incorporated into the
Washington State Department of Transportation's (WSDOT) 800 MHz trunked
radio system on Capitol Peak. The net was primarily designed to provide a
capability for state agencies within the Capitol Campus, Tumwater, Lacey, and
surrounding areas to communicate with the State Emergency Operations Center
(EOC) during emergency situations or disasters which severely impact or restrict
the use of "normal" telephone services. It can also be used to communicate
among agencies during an emergency situation, as needed.
State agencies have been encouraged to procure equipment and participate in
the net. Currently, eight agencies have done so. They are:
1. Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS).
2. Department of Agriculture .
3. Department of Community, Trade, and Economic Development (CTED) -
Energy Division.
4. Department of Health (DOH).
5. Department of Information Services (DIS).
6. Department of Labor and Industries (L&I).
7. Department of Retirement Systems (DRS).
8. Office of the Governor.
9. Office of the State Auditor.
10. Utilities and Transportation Commission.
11. Employment Security Department.
A talk group, primarily consisting of the state agencies, has been defined for the
net.
The State Emergency Operations Officer (SEOO) monitors the net on a 24-
hour basis. Communications checks of the net are scheduled on the first and
third Mondays of each month to ensure operational readiness.


http://siec.wa.gov/plan/files/SCIP.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:19 am 
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charlie fox wrote:
Funny that WSDOT has what seems to be a highly secure net while WSP broadcasts in the clear...not that I'm complaining :lol:


Sometimes the most 'secure' protocol is an 'obscure' protocol. If it's so rarely used in the industry the scanner manufacturers won't develop a scanner to track it.

WSP and WSDOT are both 'in the clear' because they are not encrypted.

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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:16 pm 
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Not enough interest? Who wouldnt want to listen to the Auditor's office or employment security dept?

Wilrobnson wrote:
charlie fox wrote:
Funny that WSDOT has what seems to be a highly secure net while WSP broadcasts in the clear...not that I'm complaining :lol:


Not really highly secure, just a weird system. AFAIK, no scanners will track it because there are so few Multinet LTR systems in the first place- not enough interest.

FYI:

Quote:
Emergency Management Radio Systems State Agency Emergency Net
(STAEN) - 800 MHz
The State Agency Emergency Net is a radio net employing an ultra high
frequency (UHF) 800 MHz repeater that has been incorporated into the
Washington State Department of Transportation's (WSDOT) 800 MHz trunked
radio system on Capitol Peak. The net was primarily designed to provide a
capability for state agencies within the Capitol Campus, Tumwater, Lacey, and
surrounding areas to communicate with the State Emergency Operations Center
(EOC) during emergency situations or disasters which severely impact or restrict
the use of "normal" telephone services. It can also be used to communicate
among agencies during an emergency situation, as needed.
State agencies have been encouraged to procure equipment and participate in
the net. Currently, eight agencies have done so. They are:
1. Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS).
2. Department of Agriculture .
3. Department of Community, Trade, and Economic Development (CTED) -
Energy Division.
4. Department of Health (DOH).
5. Department of Information Services (DIS).
6. Department of Labor and Industries (L&I).
7. Department of Retirement Systems (DRS).
8. Office of the Governor.
9. Office of the State Auditor.
10. Utilities and Transportation Commission.
11. Employment Security Department.
A talk group, primarily consisting of the state agencies, has been defined for the
net.
The State Emergency Operations Officer (SEOO) monitors the net on a 24-
hour basis. Communications checks of the net are scheduled on the first and
third Mondays of each month to ensure operational readiness.


http://siec.wa.gov/plan/files/SCIP.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:16 pm 
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olowy wrote:
Not enough interest? Who wouldnt want to listen to the Auditor's office or employment security dept?

What he meant is that there are very few systems around the country that use this protocol. Any money spent on R&D would not significantly help sell scanners. Or in other words, it would fall on deaf ears.


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 Post subject: Re: Monitoring WSDOT
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:41 pm 
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I was just kidding anyways. I think that old adage about climbing mountain becasue they are there would apply to scanners - if there is a radio system I will listen to it.

Atomic Taco wrote:
olowy wrote:
Not enough interest? Who wouldnt want to listen to the Auditor's office or employment security dept?

What he meant is that there are very few systems around the country that use this protocol. Any money spent on R&D would not significantly help sell scanners. Or in other words, it would fall on deaf ears.


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