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 Post subject: WSP - Budget woes
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:48 am 
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Just reading on NWCN that WSP is slashing the aircraft budget by half and 2 pilots are going back to working the roads.

We have 2 planes and 2 pilots stationed here in Ephrata. Has anybody heard which planes will be grounded and which pilots will be returning to the road?

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 Post subject: Re: WSP - Budget woes
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:14 pm 
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yea this is some BS, I wonder how much of these cuts they are doing to make the public say "Please stop we will pay tax"

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 Post subject: Re: WSP - Budget woes
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:54 pm 
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I thought most of the planes were stationed out of Olympia? I've been told CVO's have been cut and even saw the port of entry at Plymouth which is normally a 24/7 operation closed on a friday night. According to their website, they have 5 planes.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:57 pm 
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http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_071709WAB_wsp-cutting-airplane-hours-JM.4ddde1a5.html


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 Post subject: Re: WSP - Budget woes
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:15 pm 
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yea King5 did a good story, hopefully it will make people start to call our monkey of a Governor and make her balance the books and not just cut things off like this.

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 Post subject: Re: WSP - Budget woes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:36 am 
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I've never liked Christine Gag-a-whore. She likes to tout that she got a Red Card (neccessary for entering an area of a Forest Fire) so she can survey the damage and see for herself. Like I give a rat's ass...you're not a firefighter...GET THE FACK OUT!! Don't pretend like you care!!

On a side note, I'm listening to WSP airplane on LERN as I type this...must not be cut in my area.

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 Post subject: Re: WSP - Budget woes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:47 am 
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As a Retired Police Officer, I think the WSP should refocus some its programs and perhaps these budget woes will provide that opportunity.

Regrettably, I am doubtful this will occur.

It is my training and experience that at least half of traffic enforcement is education
and deterrence, not the citation itself. The concept of paying taxes only to be cited is a bit repugnant to me.

From this outsiders view, the education piece does not seem to be the corporate culture within the WSP- Cite is the only mechanism.

My god if you cannot effectively enforce traffic laws without planes and completely unmarked cars or stopping folks for 4 MPH over then it is a sad day for Washington State.

I have not been cited and do not have that axe to grind but the methods used here really violate the spirit of the law in my view.

While I acknowledge that the amount of crime here is much less than in the urban area I came from. That is part of the reason that I relocated here. I love this state.

In public safety you should be paid for what you might have to do- not what you do today.

No intent to hi-jack, please excuse the rant.


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 Post subject: Re: WSP - Budget woes
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I think its a good rant, and agree. My biggest bitch about the planes being pulled is not for traffic but the help they provide for everything else. The search and rescue or emergency on the spot eye in the sky if there are emergency's Traffic speeders are the 2nd or 3rd complaint for me seeing that cut off. But I fully understand that WSP like any other government office is wasteful internal aside from government policy. Sadly we will never see the day everyone saves money uses common sense and stops wasting the taxpayer dollar.

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 Post subject: Re: WSP - Budget woes
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:52 pm 
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Well here is my personal experience with te WSP planes.
The short version is: I think they provide a valuable function in traffic enforcement and are efficient in doing so.

The long version is:
Damn near got hit by (what later turned out to be) a drunk, I-5 N at the Nisqually Bridge. Bonehead was driving a new mini-cooper (should get a ticket for that alone), was next to me to the left, and out of nowhere swerved into my lane.

I dropped back (and cursed a bit) and watched the dickweed. He was consistently leaning to his right by a full half-lane. After seeing this up to the scales at Pierce/Thurston line, I figured it was worth a call.

WSP call receiver said "let me check with my officers", put me on hold, then came back and said "an officer will call you".

Sure enough, it was an Air unit who identified the vehicle, handed it off to a single ground unit, and had an arrest in approx 5 miles.

I am guessing there was some good video along the way, as this asshat kept leaning to the right the entire time, and each time was riding the middle of the lane divider. It would have been commical, if it wasn't so dangerous.

We read regularly about people being maimed and / or killed by these types, they are all around us, and if we rely on ground units alone we are always pissing up a rope.

I was really impressed with how well these guys worked this incident. The air unit kept me on the line until he had a positive ID on the car, and then he handed it to a waiting patrol car in less than 2 miles from making his ID. He called back about 15 mins later to confirm an arrest was made and thanks for the call.

There is really no way to quantify the value we get from the $$ spent on these units.

But it is a real value, to be sure.


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 Post subject: Re: WSP - Budget woes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:49 am 
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Adding to the positive...
'Smokie six' is performing a medical detail Spokane to Moses Lake as I type this.
"anti venom" per radio.

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 Post subject: Re: WSP - Budget woes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:01 am 
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Not that it matters much, but 'Smokey 6' departed Moses Lake at 0630 hours this morning for Spokane. The trooper who is the pilot is '426' - Johnny Montemayor.

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