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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:41 am 
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Don't think I would want to be a Mt Vernon or Burlington PD or Skagit Co Sheriff or area WSP for a while. What a traffic mess. 71,000 vehicles go over that bridge a day and will have to be detoured thru Mt V & Burlington for a long time to come.

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:46 am 
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Sure glad I'm not up at North Cascades anymore!

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:14 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:21 pm 
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He can crash with a friendly ewok until the bridge is replaced. I've seen quite a few in Mt. Vernon... or maybe those were their womenfolk?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:58 pm 
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chpalmer wrote:
Mark wrote:
It also seems like the notion that cell bandwidth goes to emergency personel in an emergency is a myth. Law radio was full of "can't call you I have no service"



In the initial days of the cell phone we had a bit we could set to give some better priority over others. No one ever gave clear direction so every cell techs family got higher priority while others got not so high. The priority bit was either never used on the cell end or its use ended early on.

These days the bit is totally removed.


As a former cellular salesperson, I can absolutely tell you that provisioning and priority still takes place. However, most agencies go under BUSINESS plans, and are not provisioned properly for priority access. Most fed gov't agencies ARE provisioned properly. So, in most cases, the guy that works for social security will get through, whereas the county hazmat personnel will not...

It used to be called the 'Access Overload Class'.......

For a properly provisioned customer, it will give priority on the network, and if all voice/data slots are full, it WILL remove someone else so that device can make a call/transmit data.

While the AOC is still able to be programmed on CDMA devices, the network ignores the setting, and instead relies on its own internal provisioning based on device registration and ESN.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:18 pm 
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TechnoWeenie wrote:
chpalmer wrote:
Mark wrote:
It also seems like the notion that cell bandwidth goes to emergency personel in an emergency is a myth. Law radio was full of "can't call you I have no service"



In the initial days of the cell phone we had a bit we could set to give some better priority over others. No one ever gave clear direction so every cell techs family got higher priority while others got not so high. The priority bit was either never used on the cell end or its use ended early on.

These days the bit is totally removed.


As a former cellular salesperson, I can absolutely tell you that provisioning and priority still takes place. However, most agencies go under BUSINESS plans, and are not provisioned properly for priority access. Most fed gov't agencies ARE provisioned properly. So, in most cases, the guy that works for social security will get through, whereas the county hazmat personnel will not...

It used to be called the 'Access Overload Class'.......

For a properly provisioned customer, it will give priority on the network, and if all voice/data slots are full, it WILL remove someone else so that device can make a call/transmit data.

While the AOC is still able to be programmed on CDMA devices, the network ignores the setting, and instead relies on its own internal provisioning based on device registration and ESN.


As a former cell tech I can tell you that we used to tell the sales people what to believe.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:34 pm 
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chpalmer wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:
chpalmer wrote:
Mark wrote:
It also seems like the notion that cell bandwidth goes to emergency personel in an emergency is a myth. Law radio was full of "can't call you I have no service"



In the initial days of the cell phone we had a bit we could set to give some better priority over others. No one ever gave clear direction so every cell techs family got higher priority while others got not so high. The priority bit was either never used on the cell end or its use ended early on.

These days the bit is totally removed.


As a former cellular salesperson, I can absolutely tell you that provisioning and priority still takes place. However, most agencies go under BUSINESS plans, and are not provisioned properly for priority access. Most fed gov't agencies ARE provisioned properly. So, in most cases, the guy that works for social security will get through, whereas the county hazmat personnel will not...

It used to be called the 'Access Overload Class'.......

For a properly provisioned customer, it will give priority on the network, and if all voice/data slots are full, it WILL remove someone else so that device can make a call/transmit data.

While the AOC is still able to be programmed on CDMA devices, the network ignores the setting, and instead relies on its own internal provisioning based on device registration and ESN.


As a former cell tech I can tell you that we used to tell the sales people what to believe.


I saw the options in the system, and talked to the engineers... I've also provisioned accounts successfully for fire and police departments. I know how it's supposed to work.. Whether it does or not, is another question.. :-p

That's for you engineers to figure out why it's not working as advertised..

Straight from the horses mouth, so to speak....

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Wireless Priority Service (WPS)
During many large-scale emergencies, communications networks remain partially intact, though available capacity may be overwhelmed by thousands or millions of calls. In these cases, Wireless Priority Service (WPS) and its companion program, the Government Emergency Telecommunications Service (GETS), ensure emergency workers and other essential personnel have priority access to any available lines of communication. Sprint WPS involves no recurring costs and low per-minute fees, and is available to authorized personnel in both government agencies and private critical infrastructure entities.



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:02 pm 
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Looks like they may have tried to re-invent the wheel a bit.

I always figured they should bring it back since they tend to do the programming over the air nowadays...

It was abandoned by higher ups according to the switch guys. We had more than one theory on why though. It was gone when I started and according to all the manufacturers- left in the phone just in case. But that was analog days.

Good test though- I may have the guy in charge over here ask about it and see what kind of answer he gets.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:06 pm 
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Here ya go- Looks like the FCC got involved to help make this happen. But its not in any sense automatic.

http://wps.ncs.gov/program_info.html

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:02 am 
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The temporary bridge on I5 in Mt. Vernon is now open in both directions to cars.

Large vehicles still need to use the detours until the new bridge is built.

http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/News/2013/06/I5 ... enSoon.htm


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